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Nautical charts identified an island called "Bracile" west of Ireland in the Atlantic Ocean as far back as 1325, in a portolan chart by Angelino Dulcert. Later it appeared as Insula de Brasil in the Venetian map of Andrea Bianco (1436), attached to one of the larger islands of a group of islands in the Atlantic. This was identified for a time with the modern island of Terceira in the Azores.
A Catalan chart of about 1480 labels two islands "Illa de brasil", one to the south west of Ireland (where the mythical place was supposed to be) and one south of "Illa verde" or Greenland.
On maps the island was shown as being circular, often with a central strait or river running east-west across its diameter. Despite the failure of attempts to find it, this appeared regularly on maps lying south west of Galway Bay until 1865, by which time it was called Brasil Rock.
- Searches for the island -
Expeditions left Bristol in 1480 and 1481 to search for the island; and a letter written by Pedro de Ayala, shortly after the return of John Cabot (from his expedition in 1497), reports that land found by Cabot had been "discovered in the past by the men from Bristol who found Brasil".
Despite the similarity, the name of the country Brazil bears no relation to the mythical islands. It was at first named Ilha de Vera Cruz (Island of the True Cross) and later Terra de Santa Cruz (Land of the Holy Cross) by the Portuguese navigators who discovered the land.
After some decades, it started to be called 'Brazil' (Brasil, in Portuguese) due to the exploitation of native Brazilwood, at that time the only export of the land. The word "Brazil" comes from brazilwood, a tree that once grew plentifully along the Brazilian coast.
Later, various people claimed to have seen the island off the coast of Ireland, or even landed on it, the last supposed sighting being in 1872. In 1674 Captain John Nisbet claimed to have seen the island when on a journey from France to Ireland. He stated the island was inhabited by large black rabbits and a magician who lived alone in a stone castle.
Roderick O’Flaherty in A Chorographical Description of West or H-Iar Connaught (1684) tells us "There is now living, Morogh O'Ley (Murrough Ó Laoí), who imagines he was personally on O'Brasil for two days, and saw out of it the iles of Aran, Golamhead, Irrosbeghill, and other places of the west continent he was acquainted with."
Hy-Brasil has also been identified with Porcupine Bank, a shoal in the Atlantic Ocean about 200 kilometres (120 miles) west of Ireland and discovered in 1862. As early as 1870 a paper was read to the Geological Society of Ireland suggesting this identification. The most recent writings on the subject being Graham Hancock's book Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilization.
(Grey/blue text courtesy of Wikipedia)
I myself have some experience as a cartographer. Producing maps of parts of Africa under the supervision of the eminant zoologist Dr Ian Redmund OBE, with RADAR images supplied by NASA via the Space Shuttle "Atlantis" back in 1992.
(See more about that on the Hominoids page) - Click on images to enlarge -
Saint Brendans Island is another place that seems to have moved around the Atlantic like a ghost pirate ship. It shows up in many of the same maps as Hy-Brasil and like that island has probably sunk under the ever rising sea. This place may well go to give more creedance to the view that there was an ancient culture that mapped the world before modern history even started.
Piri Reis map:
In 1929 a map was found in a library in Constantinople, (Istanbul) Turkey. The map was drawn in 1513 by a Turkish admiral, Piri Reis. The strange thing about this map, is that it shows futures of the earth that nobody in 1513 should have even known.
Before the 18th century sailors ran the risk of crashing their ships on the rocky coastlines because they lack one thing, the ability to calculate longitude, for that you need an extremely accurate clock, it wasn't until 1790 that the first accurate marine time piece was invented and sailors could pinpoint their position on the seas, yet 250 years before this clock was made, Peri Reis had drawn a map which shows the coastlines of Africa and South America and Antarctica unfrozen.
The details at the bottom of the map showing Antarctica unfrozen and adjoined to South America could only have come from a source map that was drawn around 11,500 BC. or even earlier. There are also some river details in South America that in 1513 were unexplored. There are animals depicted that have been extict for thousands of years in that region.
Either we have been lied to about the dates of the last ice age or this was copied form ancient source maps.
Peri Reis himself said, that this knowledge wasn't his, it was knowledge that he borrowed and copied from earlier maps and he stated so on the map. It was based on more than 20 source maps and that some of these maps went back to the time of Alexander the great or even earlier. With maps from China, Greece, Spain, Portugal and India. So the mystery is, who charted the globe so long ago? With such accuracy that we ourselves can barely even match today.
Being Turkish of course would have been a huge advantage for him. With maps from the China and India coming along Eastern trade routes and Ancient Greek maps on his doorstep. Access to the Christopher Columbus maps of the Bahamas and Cuba (The Indies) would have been very usefull and he may have obtained copies of John Cabots (Giovanni Caboto) America/Newfoundland maps.
(Cabot got to mainland America/Canada a year before Columbus but much later than Lief Eriksson back in 1000 AD or Saint Brendan in 530 AD.)
Piri Reis probably had a copy of the astonishing Chinese world map below these.
Oronteus Finaeus map
Professor of science; Charles Hapgood was
combing through the map room in the library
of congress when he made a startling discovery.
"As my eyes fell upon the southern hemisphere
of the world map drawn by Oronteus Finaeus in 1532 I had the instant conviction that I had
found here a truly authentic map of the real Antarctica" - Charles Hapgood.
The mystery of this map is that the shows Antarctica as it looks under the ice, long before
Antarctica is even supposed to have been discovered (1820) and perhaps the greatest
mystery of all is that it shows the Antarctic peninsula, not as it looks today, covered by
more than a mile of ice but as it actually looks underneath that covering of ice, we ourselves,
have only known what the land under the Antarctic peninsula really looks like since 1958 when
seismic surveys were taken across the ice cap.
Hapgood put his theory to the test, he compared the Oronteus Finaeus map with a map of Antarctica as it looks covered with ice, the maps were similar but details of the coastline were obscured by the ice, then using a map created by seismic graphic survey he was able to compare the actual coastlines of Antarctica with the Oronteus Finaeus map, when the maps were overlaid the similarities were incredible.
The clearest deduction of all is that whoever drew up those original source maps thousands of years ago had a level of technology as high as our own, they had explored the whole globe, from north so south and from east to west, so this is testimony of an advanced and as yet unidentified civilization in remote pre-history. (Atlantis?)
Piri Reis. 1470 -1555
(Above images) China's World Map - 1418 ? Chopped in 2 for closer inspection. The Chinese had come to terms with longitude about 300 years before the west. This is how they made such accurate maps. Western science just won't eccept this. It's basically rascism. We get anti Chinese propaganda every day from our media even though they have never been an aggressive nation. A hangover from the cold war or is it something else?
(Above image) Antarctica Today.
This shows the ice zones. When water levels were much lower this would have appeared more like the Orontius map above.
An inscription identifies this map as a copy made in 1763 of an original drawn in 1418.
Antiquities collector Liu Gang, who unveiled the map in Beijing last week, says it proves that Chinese seafarer Zheng He discovered America more than 70 years before Christopher Columbus set foot in the New World.
But experts have dismissed the map as a fake. They say the map resembles a French 17th-century world map with its depiction of California as an island. That China is not shown in the center also suggests the Chinese did not make the map, one expert says.
Liu said he realized the significance of the map after reading a book by retired British naval officer Gavin Menzies.
The book, 1421: the Year China Discovered America, argues that Zheng led a fleet of 300 ships to America in the early 15th century to expand Ming China's influence.
Menzies also asserts that Zheng was the first person to circumnavigate the globe and that Chinese settlers established now-vanished colonies throughout the Americas.
What really happened is difficult to prove, because China burned the records of Zheng's expeditions, scholars say.
But academics overwhelmingly dismiss Menzies's claims.
Historical records show that from 1405 to 1433, Zheng led China's imperial Star Fleet on seven epic voyages, but he only reached as far as the southern coast of Africa.
(Exerpt from National Geographic)
(Above images) Hy-Brasil - 120 miles West of Ireland. Grazioso Benincasa. 1473
Brasil, also known as Hy-Brasil or several other variants, is a phantom island which was said to lie in the Atlantic ocean west of Ireland. In Irish myths it was said to be cloaked in mist, except for one day each seven years, when it became visible but still could not be reached. It probably has similar roots to other mythical islands said to exist in the Atlantic, such as Atlantis, St. Brendan's Island, and the Isle of Mam. The etymology of the names Brasil and Hy-Brasil are unknown, but in Irish tradition it is thought to come from the Irish Uí Breasail (meaning "descendants (i.e., clan of Breasal"), one of the ancient clans of northeastern Ireland. cf. Old Irish: Í: island; bres: beauty, worth; great, mighty.
(Above image) Porcupine Bank, Hy-Brasil location.
Is it possible that some these maps could proove the existance of the lost civalisation of Atlantis? As is shown on the USO's page there are many Atlantian candidates around the globe. As the ice melted at the end of the last iceage many places were submerged under anything between 50 and 400 feet of water. They keep cropping up on Google Earth and on SONAR readings. Cuba, Bimini, India, Spain and Antarctica and more.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Ortelius 1572 Map. Bottom centre of picture.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Further north on this Abraham Ortelius 1572 map.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil -
Piri Reis map 1513.
(Above image) Orontius Finaeus 1532 map.
This map is way more accurate than it should be for its age. Antarctica wasn't officially discovered untill 1820.
(Above image) Philippe Buache map 1739.
This extraordinary French map shows Antarctica as two unfrozen land masses and parts of New Holland (Australia) in the bottom right of the image.
It's said that the British only claimed Australia to stop the French having it.
This is remarkably accurate considering that Antarctica wasn't discovered utill 1820.
It shows Antarctica round the wrong way. The pointed peninsula at the bottom of the image shoud be almost meeting the tip of South America on the upper left.
It's looks like the cartographer got his tracing of that land mass upside down when he was compiling the map on his drawing board. Definate evidence of the use of earlier source maps to copy from.
Often in cartography images are transposed using a light box or window to trace the original image or part of it.
Thin paper or tracing paper is placed over the image to be transposed. It is copied on to the thinner tracing paper that becomes semi transparent when held up to the light box or window. (Spirit can also be used to make it more transparent.)
The original image then shows through for the draftsman to copy exactly. Once the traced print is made the back of it is penciled in.
You then place it on the new map surface to print the image on it by drawing over the same lines again. It works as a carbon copy. A process that can go wrong quite easily. Images are often printed in reverse by accident.
I certainly have done this also.
(Above image) Modern Antarctica Map.
This map shows Antarctica in the correct orientation with the Antarctic Peninsula pointing North West almost joining South America as it should.
Of course the outline of Antarctica changes with the seasons as ice melts and then refreezes in winter. It hasn't been mostly unfrozen since around 11,500 BC. Or at least that's what we are told.
(Above image) Ortelius World Map 1570.
This map shows Antarctica as a much bigger mass. This is mainly due to the way in which map projections are calculated. But it still should not be there. It's exactly 250 years before Antarctica was discovered.
(Right image) Orontius Finaeus 1532
map. Cropped for closer inspection. Terra Autralus is not Australia, it's Antarctica.
(Below ight image) Orontius Finaeus 1532
map. Cropped and rotated for closer comparison. It shows the land mass unfrozen as in the modern image below.
(Above image) The Mathew.
Bristol, Floating Harbour, UK. A replica of John Cabots boat that he sailed to Newfoundland in 1496. My younger brother Thomas White worked and sailed on this replica when it was being trialed.
(Above images) Piri Reis Map 1513. Cropped for closer inspection.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil -
Piri Reis map 1513. Crop, Negative.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Portolan Chart (excerpt) 1492.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Ortelius (excerpt) 1572.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Abraham Cresques 1375.
(Above image) Possible phantom island locations. Modern Atlantic map.
(Above image) Hy-Brasil. Tabula noua Anglica & Hybernia. Date Unknown.
St. Brendan of Ardfert (ca. 484-578) was an Irish monk who was said to have sailed, with sixty men, into
the Atlantic Ocean in search of the Isle of the Blest. According to the story, they sailed for five years and
saw many wonders, eventually reaching a beautiful island where they met a holy man. Brendan believed this
to be his “Promised Land of the Saints.”
Legends about Brendan became current shortly after he died and by the tenth century a number of books
had been written about his voyages. The written accounts differ with each other, but there is enough in
them that matches the geography of the North Atlantic that it seems to indicate that the accounts probably
reflect some knowledge of voyages in the North Atlantic by Irish monks, including possibly by St. Brendan himself.
Certainly Irish monks had been to Iceland before 800 A.D., and it is possible that they also made it to Greenland.
St. Brendan’s island appeared on maps as late as the 1750's, wandering about the Atlantic Ocean in numerous locations.
Sometimes the island might actually reflect newly discovered islands, such as the Madeiras or Canaries (which are also called the “Fortunate Islands”), or it might simply be inserted in some unexplored blank spot at the guess of the mapmaker.
(Above & left images)
St. Brendans Island
Ortelius Map 1572.
(Above image) St. Brendans Island 1597
(Above image) St. Brendans Island - Ortelius Map.
(Above image) Atlantis - Patroclus Kampanakis 1891. This illustration looks very similar to Antarctica in the above images. Perhaps they are one and the same place?
Saint Brendan the Navigator as he was known. His popularity stems from these accounts of his 6th century voyage across the Atlantic Ocean; an account that some scholars are now considering as proof of the earliest recorded voyage to America; 400 years before Leif Ericsson and almost 1,000 years before Christopher Columbus. (Join the queue dude!)
It is said that some 900 years after Brendan and at least 400 after the publication of the Navigatio (St. Brendans Chronical), Christopher Columbus visited Dingle to secure information about Brendan's alleged trip before setting out to find a westward route to China, relying on the legends told of St Brendan as part of his argument that it was indeed possible to travel to Asia by crossing the Atlantic. Columbus knew the Navigatio, and a map that he used when sailing from Spain in 1492 featured a large landmass in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean labeled “Saint Brendan's Island.” In fact, the Spanish crown had already claimed sovereignty over it - wherever and whatever it was - and many sailors prior to Columbus had sought to find it.
St. Brendan speaks of encountering “mountains in the sea spouting fire,” floating crystal palaces, monsters with catlike heads and horns growing from their mouths, and “little furry men.” Scholars see in this account the earliest descriptions of Iceland's volcanoes, icebergs, walruses, and even Eskimos.
(Above image) St. brendan and the Whale. Ancient journey to America?
Well I have read Gavin Menzies's 1421 book. His theory
deffinatley holds up although he might be out by a few years.
I recomend the book. Menzies, much like Graham
Hancock and others is not a trained arceologist,
so I tend to believe him.
He hasn't had years of dogma forced down hs throught like
many in modern science. This may well be a case of the
establishment trying to sidestep more inconvenient information
that might make them look wrong. (No change there!)
What they are saying about this map looking like an 18th
century French one is a bit premature as it is a map of the
same planet is it not!
Just because it has California as a seperate island means little.
In fact the source map that this was copied from may have
shown it as a seperate island also. The Baja California
peninsula may well have been an island. Especially if you
go gack far enough. It has been moving consatntly inland
for millenia. It is a fairly common feature on old maps.
It just means that it was at least in part copied from other
source maps as is common practice among cartographers
throughout the world. Oh and it doesn't have China in the
centre? Well Peri Reis's maps don't have Turkey in the centre
either. Big deal!
It still shows Antarctica at least 57 years too soon! Possibly
402 years too soon. Either way it's a remarkable piece of work
that also includes all of Australia, not just bits of it, two rather
large islands west of Spain (Atlantis ?) and some interesting islands east of North America.
(St Brendons Isle perhaps?) It rather strangely misses out the UK and Ireland. A feature that any self
respecting European cartographer would never leave out. It looks like th UK is adjoined to France as
it would have been around 11,500 BC.
It may well be a later copy of the Chinese map that Peri Reis copied as mentioned in the
Much like my late uncle, Martin Goodall. Gavin Menzies was an Officer on a Nuclear Submarine
in the Royal Navy, having an intimate knowledge of the worlds oceans and currents and the
ability to think out of the box. Or in their cases - the boat!
There is much evidence other than this map to support Menzies claims. Including:
(There are tons more than shown here.)
DNA evidence of a large Chinese population in the USA that predate European settlement.
A Chinese treasure ship wreck on the California coast with Ming pottery dating to the early 1400's, found by early settlers.
A Bhudda found in strata under one of the oldest Jasmine trees in Australia. Dating it to the early 1400's.
Aboriganal rock art depictions of Chinese Junk ships.
An account by Columbus of honey skinned people in silk robes in the Indies.
Accounts of rice growning Indian tribes in many areas of the US.
The previlance of Dingos in Australia - A Chinese breed.
The prevalance of Apalucha Ponies (Chinese breed) and many other Chinese animals in America before the white man came.
Rice found in the mortar on the walls on the Neweport Tower on the East Coast of the US. Like on the "Great Wall Of China".
(Above image) Atlantian Civalization. This illustration should include parts of Japan and South East Asia where new massive sunken structures have been recently found.
Compare the Atlantis Island location on the centre of this map to the Chinese map above. Scary!
Chinese ships had reached America seventy years before Columbus and circumnavigated the globe a century before Magellan. They had also discovered Antarctica, reached Australia three hundred and fifty years before Cook and solved the problem of longitude three hundred years before the Europeans…”
St. Brendan The Navigator.
(Above image) The Baja California peninsula. This land mass has been moving north northwest for millenia. The Chinese map shows it seperate as it may have been around 11,500 years ago. Bingo! More ancient Atlantis cartogrpher evidence.
Sunken Cities - Sunken Minds
Archeologists around the world are a slow bunch, always dragging their feet when it comes to new discoveries and theories. Whenever a new sunken city is found they always seem to massively underestimate the age of it. They consistently dismiss the sophistication of the ancient cultures that built them as do ancient alien theorists who seem to say that anything we can’t understand is extraterrestrial in origin. Alien means foreign or of unknown origin, not necessarily of ET origin. Look it up people!
The problem is that rewriting the archaeological records and history books is a difficult and painstaking job and they would often rather just carry on in their dogged old fashioned way. (Old fashioned but tried and tested)
They are by their very nature are stuck in a rut, usually with a small brush and trowel.
When a new discovery is made it can often make a lot of their previous theories obsolete. This means that the archaeologists have to reinvent themselves all over again. This can’t be easy for them but they still do it. As do most scientists. They usually get there in the end but it can take many years for new theories to permeate through. (Although it’s getting quicker with the internet) Keep up the good work.
(Right image) This page is dedicated to my late uncle - Martin John Goodall. (Cheif Petty Officer RN)
He served with noteriety on both the "HMS Ark Royal" (Aircraft carrier) and later became a submariner serving on the "HMS Repulse". (Resolution class nuclear Submarine)
Chinese anchor stones could prove the early coloniozation of America by the Chinese as far back as 3000 BC.
Reports published in 1984 stated that 35 more anchors had been recovered from Californian waters around Palos Verdes, some weighing as much as 138 kilos, and they were judged to be as much as 3,000 years old.
Very recently some have been found that are as much as 5,000 lbs in weight. The magnesium nodules found on some of these anchors have been dated to around 4000 - 5000 years old.
Experts seem determined to defend a pre-established theory rather than to seek a scientific truth, for fear that this might endanger the ideas they have been expounding for years. Resistance to change is one of the main brakes to scientific progress.
The origin of the stone to make these anchors is being hotly argued by various experts both in the US and China. The American geologists say it is a local rock where as the Chinese experts say it is common to southern China. You can see where this is going.
If the dating is correct then the Chinese must be correct. Native Americans did not build boats or ships big enough to carry these large anchors. Some of them may well have been cut from local stone but only the Chinese make Anchors in this particular way.
It goes to show that when you find proof then experts just dissmiss it and stick their heads in ther sand. It happens every frikin time anything really interesting crops up. Spit.
Historian Dr Jennifer Pertle (Professor of Art & Asian Studies) says that the Chinese had almost no experience of sailing over open water and weren't capable of crossing oceans in the 15th century. It's amazing how one expert can speak for the whole Chinese nation. It only takes one sailor to prove statement that wrong. Absolutely astonishing.
Well according to the dating on these they got there between 1500 - 3000 BC - and sailing in a clockwise direction they could have just sailed around the edge of the Pacific Ocean rarely losing sight of land.
The real issue here is who didn't discover America and colonise it. The Vikings - Polynesians - Chinese - Japanese - Welsh - The Clovis stoneage peoples. Need I go on.
This is a redundent Christian argument that tries to dismiss any non Christian settlement theories.
(Image left) These are Chinese anchor stones. They would have rope tied through the middle of them to secure the vessel in shallow waters.
The DNA evidence of Chinese genes in Pre Columbian America certainly supports this particular Chinese argument.
(Above video) Atlantis Azores: New Pyramid & City Discovered Underwater: Antarctic Alignments. 1080p ArtAlienTV
New underwater pyramid discovered in the Azores. Also the recently discovered huge sunken city between the Azores and the Canary Islands in the Atlantic Ocean and how it lines up precisely with the new very large Antarctic structure discovered on Google earth by ArtAlienTV on March 6th 2013.
This evidence suggests that Atlantis was a real civilization and was probably responsible for building all 3 of these massive structures before the water levels rose and hid these magnificent buildings, until now.
The fact that they line up so exactly hints at a grand design by some ancient Atlantean architect.
The new Azores pyramid is 8000 square metres in size. The sunken city just south east of it is 104 x 75 miles in size. Truly a massive city.
The Antarctic pyramid or castle structure that lines up with the sunken city is partially obscured by ice and cloud is at high altitude but the straight 2km long sides can be seen with right angled corners. It shows signs of possible earthquake damage.
All these buildings must have been built a very long time ago when the water levels were much lower and there was no ice on that part of the Antarctic continent.
Yet more evidence proving that history is not as cut and dry as we are led to believe. Inconvenient facts are usually pushed into a drawer and left. Artefacts that don't match conventional scientific consensus are locked away in museum vaults, never to see the light of day. Yet sometimes things crop up that just can't be ignored.
For more on this stunning find go to the Antarctica page here: New Pyramids: Antarctica